Subject	Let me rephrase for all you haters
Posted by	AzHeat on February 15, 2007 at 12:20 PM
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In Reply To	...and you? (n/m) posted by YugoBernie (NoVA) on February 15, 2007 at 12:05 AM
Message	John took the initiative to design and produce alternative exhaust manifolds at his own expense and time which is more than 99% of the people on here have done. So his manifolds did not get the highest CFM compared to Mike Smith manifolds -- So What!! How many months or years did it take for Mike Smith to release his manifolds to the public? John had his manifolds ready many months ahead of Mike Smith. It is easy to talk Sh#t behind keyboard when you have nothing to back it up with your own solution. Talk is cheap. Rather than criticize John and shoot him down by an “In your face” response of “Eat Crow” STFU.
Follow Ups	MS Manifolds Flowtest & Comparison to AAE Manifolds - Ash's Z 11:53:26 02/14/07 Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you. - Twainsville 11:58:38 02/14/07 So that's where you've been hiding... get on Aim ho -Vik (n/m) - Irocsx2002 12:24:16 02/14/07 RE your closing comment about exhaust mainfolds and - 240Z FeO2 12:26:08 02/14/07 Now that this flowtesting is done I can get to work on - Ash's Z 13:11:22 02/14/07 Thanks Ash. The results make me happy :) - EricTTZ 12:31:04 02/14/07 Perhaps a graph to include to make your point clear - Joe(NoVA) 12:35:47 02/14/07 Thanks Joe - that does put it into perspective quite well. (n/m) - Ash's Z 13:14:08 02/14/07 To clarify, that's AAE w/o gasket and MS w/ gasket. Yes? - 300zx90 (CO) 18:55:08 02/14/07 i believe the aae are gasket matched so testing with - ztunerz 09:22:57 02/15/07 in short, MS > AAE (n/m) - Guapo 12:35:52 02/14/07 ding ding ding (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 12:37:10 02/14/07 Good thing I ordered the MS (n/m) - collegeboy 13:04:58 02/14/07 yes, good thing (n/m) - Guapo 13:20:23 02/14/07 Give the kid a break. With the manis he's only like 350hp - dogpile 13:34:16 02/14/07 You guys are so mean. I love it. (n/m) - RSR 15:51:13 02/14/07 I was being nice :shrug: (n/m) - dogpile 15:57:06 02/14/07 If only Mike cared. Darn! (n/m) - TexanZX 16:01:24 02/14/07 at least when you typed it, you didn't forget the "f" (n/m) - dogpile 16:06:01 02/14/07 Yea I noticed that and was like wtf mate lol - collegeboy 16:43:28 02/14/07 dogpile's in Dallas? (n/m) - Guapo 17:22:32 02/14/07 Yeppers. Did you not get that memo? - dogpile 17:55:55 02/14/07 aw damn yo :-( (n/m) - Guapo 17:56:57 02/14/07 It's cool, dawg. We called Milo, so it's all gravy - dogpile 18:06:39 02/14/07 werd (n/m) - Guapo 18:10:34 02/14/07 Yea, we'll be there with our big hair and Abercrombie gear - dogpile 17:53:05 02/14/07 lol that was funny - collegeboy 17:59:35 02/14/07 Oh but I do (n/m) - collegeboy 16:38:56 02/14/07 pretty much - aliaZ 13:32:34 02/14/07 Any word on the progress of the inlet pipes? (n/m) - sfarrah 13:35:06 02/14/07 he hasn't had time to work on them - aliaZ 14:16:41 02/14/07 thanks for the update - sfarrah 14:34:55 02/14/07 yep - aliaZ 19:18:20 02/14/07 Sounds good - collegeboy 13:44:41 02/14/07 2nd (n/m) - ARA300ZX 13:55:19 02/14/07 anybody have pic comparisons of the two? (n/m) - moxie (SF) 12:55:32 02/14/07 Re: MS Manifolds Flowtest & Comparison to AAE Manifolds - hawaii2z 13:01:48 02/14/07 yes (n/m) - awesom-o 13:05:57 02/14/07 yes (n/m) - sfarrah 13:06:02 02/14/07 Yes, Abeler Automotive Engineering(?) (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 13:06:51 02/14/07 With no actual "Engineer" under his employee. (n/m) - Inzane 23:28:16 02/14/07 Maybe the employee in question isn't very attractive - 300zx90 (CO) 14:27:16 02/15/07 get yer spoon boys - Crow, its whats for dinner. - Adam (NoVA) 13:08:39 02/14/07 poor John (n/m) - maglito 15:36:36 02/14/07 He gave me a ration of shat for not using his manifolds - Adam (NoVA) 17:48:36 02/14/07 heh, his marketing techniques were questionable at best. - maglito 18:11:22 02/14/07 well...he kinda asked for it imho - aliaZ 19:19:36 02/14/07 What have you produced for the Z? I forgot a big goose egg (n/m) - AzHeat 23:34:34 02/14/07 ...and you? (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 00:05:39 02/15/07 I'm not the one saying AAE eats crow. (n/m) - AzHeat 00:50:40 02/15/07 Here's a quick english lesson, ass heat - - Adam (NoVA) 07:40:40 02/15/07 How about a lesson in spelling "Shat" is that English? (n/m) - AzHeat 08:22:21 02/15/07 I used the past tense of the word in order to avoid - Adam (NoVA) 08:47:22 02/15/07 You want to teach English lessons when you can't even - AzHeat 09:43:21 02/15/07 Re: You want to teach English lessons when you can't even - Adam (NoVA) 09:47:24 02/15/07 *grammar (n/m) - Guapo 09:59:43 02/15/07 Thanks I caught that but it was too late to correct - AzHeat 12:06:57 02/15/07 So? (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 08:32:29 02/15/07 Exactly, So what!! (n/m) - AzHeat 09:35:43 02/15/07 Let me rephrase for all you haters - AzHeat 12:20:58 02/15/07 You really too stupid to understand what it means - Adam (NoVA) 12:30:57 02/15/07 I'm sure John appreciates your use of "Eat Crow" in - AzHeat 13:08:53 02/15/07 As much as everyone appreciated his attitude on here - Adam (NoVA) 13:32:33 02/15/07 Does it really matter to you what his attitude is? (n/m) - AzHeat 14:04:13 02/15/07 when he accuses me of choosing a manifold based on 'loyalty' - Adam (NoVA) 15:46:20 02/15/07 ^are - You really are (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 13:33:10 02/15/07 thanks (n/m) - aliaZ 13:10:55 02/14/07 do you have a graph of both mani's vs a stock - sfarrah 13:12:53 02/14/07 No, I need to go by my storate facility and pickup the other - Ash's Z 13:14:54 02/14/07 thanks! (n/m) - sfarrah 13:34:32 02/14/07 Hey Ash, good work there - DAYTONAZ 13:50:37 02/14/07 thanks ash for giving us the data to the public. (n/m) - Twin Turbine Z32 14:15:36 02/14/07 Thank you! (n/m) - cherry 14:55:03 02/14/07 Thanks Ash for doing all this - maglito 15:39:57 02/14/07 Observations and Questions - The Devils Z 16:33:30 02/14/07 runners 1/3 or 2/4 meaning pass 1/2 or DRV 1/2 - The Devils Z 16:54:00 02/14/07 Dee, I'm afraid that doesn't make much sence - maglito 18:08:49 02/14/07 *grabs popcorn* - Spee 18:16:32 02/14/07 ditto (n/m) - dogpile 18:19:56 02/14/07 I am trying to help him, not pick a fight. Try it sometime. (n/m) - maglito 18:41:28 02/14/07 tard fights don't have to be malicious in nature. - Spee 18:54:31 02/14/07 You know there's a ton of Bluetoothed phones calls - dogpile 19:26:17 02/14/07 Bluetooth... Yummy :) (n/m) - Ash's Z 01:18:23 02/15/07 here is what he is saying - ztunerz 19:39:46 02/14/07 True, however, adding the flow numbers will tell you how - Ash's Z 17:13:06 02/15/07 Nice job. Results as expected. (n/m) - Spee 18:09:47 02/14/07 What were you expecting? (n/m) - AzHeat 20:38:05 02/14/07 Evidently, the results that were presented. (n/m) - Dustin 20:55:53 02/14/07 how would he know the results? Was he expecting - AzHeat 22:13:02 02/14/07 because he's smarter than you. (n/m) - Guapo 22:23:17 02/14/07 and you're smart as box of rocks. (n/m) - AzHeat 23:30:34 02/14/07 Nice response... Just as expected... (n/m) - Kaz (Dallas) 09:32:00 02/15/07 ... - Guapo 09:37:02 02/15/07 So AAE are port-matched but also larger than the gasket? - 300zx90 (CO) 18:49:05 02/14/07 No - they are matched to the gasket (n/m) - ztunerz 19:34:00 02/14/07 So, if someone had head work done, the AAE manifolds - Guapo 19:45:48 02/14/07 i'll get into an argument with you later :) (n/m) - ztunerz 20:09:34 02/14/07 shrug ... I'll take that as a "yes" (n/m) - Guapo 20:13:06 02/14/07 FWIW, this isn't the end of the line when it comes to - Ash's Z 01:17:15 02/15/07 noted (n/m) - Guapo 09:30:44 02/15/07 i don't care what you think - there is no changing your mind - ztunerz 09:20:20 02/15/07 just trying to clarify (n/m) - Guapo 09:29:35 02/15/07 FINALLY!!!! :).. Now I get to put my motor back together :) (n/m) - Kong ZTT GT28RS MD 09:36:28 02/15/07 Awesome job Ash!!! - eriksu9 10:44:32 02/15/07
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